In the midst of it all, let’s remember the One who died for our freedom.
“Some trust in chariots and some in horses, but we trust in the name of the LORD our God. They collapse and fall, but we rise and stand upright.” (Psalms 20:7-8)
How do you deal with the practicalities of Veteran’s Day? These sorts of things still puzzle me. Since i more or less consider myself a pacifist, what should i do? What should i do when the sermon on Sunday morning is about great people who fight wars are? i’m not trying to be difficult, i just genuinely don’t know how my ethical stance applies to holidays like today.
Guy,
I’ll admit that I’m still working this out. Here are my thoughts as of right now (don’t hold me to this an hour from now):
I honor veterans for their ideals. I don’t agree with every choice they’ve made, but that holds true for everyone. Most people that I know served out of very honorable motives, and I have no trouble honoring that.
I reject much of what is said about the debt we owe them, etc. Too much civic religion for my taste. The church sounds just like the world. Have we forgotten that God abhors the very things that man esteems?
I also reject the idea that war accomplishes God’s designs. Wars are fought for human reasons, not godly ones.
I take these days as a good time to remember those that have suffered because of man’s love for violence. This includes the families of soldiers, soldiers themselves, and those that they have killed.
Grace and peace,
Tim Archer
H Clay McCool
Tim there is a time to speak and a time to be silent.
Today would have been a good day for you to have just have remained silent.
“I reject much of what is said about the debt we owe them, etc. ”
i appreciate your remarks. They were very helpful to me and give me a lot to think about. (What seems more “repugnant” to me is the notion that you shouldn’t be able to express your own views on your own blog.)
i read blogs yesterday where people said that Paul’s words “give honor to whom honor is due” is meant to apply to day’s like veteran’s day. But if pacifism is right, then surely that verse is not applicable is it? If America held an annual holiday of honoring the people in society with the greatest amount of sexual partners, surely we wouldn’t read Paul in church “give honor to whom honor is due” and then conclude that we, Christians, need also honor promiscuous people, would we? So surely Paul does not mean to say that people are due honor on account of anything the Bible teaches is sinful. (And i notice the bullet points you list are consistent with that–you honor people but not on account of what you believe to be their sins. Have i got you right?)
I remember!
Tim,
How do you deal with the practicalities of Veteran’s Day? These sorts of things still puzzle me. Since i more or less consider myself a pacifist, what should i do? What should i do when the sermon on Sunday morning is about great people who fight wars are? i’m not trying to be difficult, i just genuinely don’t know how my ethical stance applies to holidays like today.
–guy
Guy,
I’ll admit that I’m still working this out. Here are my thoughts as of right now (don’t hold me to this an hour from now):
Grace and peace,
Tim Archer
Tim there is a time to speak and a time to be silent.
Today would have been a good day for you to have just have remained silent.
“I reject much of what is said about the debt we owe them, etc. ”
Your remarks are repugnant.
Tim,
i appreciate your remarks. They were very helpful to me and give me a lot to think about. (What seems more “repugnant” to me is the notion that you shouldn’t be able to express your own views on your own blog.)
i read blogs yesterday where people said that Paul’s words “give honor to whom honor is due” is meant to apply to day’s like veteran’s day. But if pacifism is right, then surely that verse is not applicable is it? If America held an annual holiday of honoring the people in society with the greatest amount of sexual partners, surely we wouldn’t read Paul in church “give honor to whom honor is due” and then conclude that we, Christians, need also honor promiscuous people, would we? So surely Paul does not mean to say that people are due honor on account of anything the Bible teaches is sinful. (And i notice the bullet points you list are consistent with that–you honor people but not on account of what you believe to be their sins. Have i got you right?)
–guy