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The identity of Jesus, Pt. 2

jesus“Hence we have the Father, Son and Holy Spirit equally divine, though personally distinct from each other. We have in fact, but one God, one Lord, one Holy Spirit; yet these are equally possessed of one and of the same divine nature.” (Alexander Campbell, The Christian System) From early times, many have affirmed that Jesus was “God made flesh.” The book The Da Vinci Code makes the claim that this belief is only as old as the Nicene Council of 325 A.D., yet we have older documents that refer to this doctrine. The Latin theologian Tertullian even used the term “trinity” to describe the relationship between Father, Son and Holy Spirit, and he lived about 100 years before the writing of the Nicene creed.

What is of interest to us, of course, is what the Bible says. Here’s a few arguments that are presented in favor of Jesus being “God made flesh”:

Direct statements in Scripture such as John 1:1; John 1:18; Romans 9:5; Titus 2:13; Hebrews 1:8; 2 Peter 1:1

Jesus accepted worship, while maintaining that we should worship God alone.

The Father and Jesus are often referred to in an interchangeable way:

Romans 8:9-11. Who lives in us? “the Spirit of God,” “the Spirit of Christ,” “Christ” “the Spirit of him who raised Jesus from the dead,” “his Spirit”

In Revelation, we have these passages:
“I am the Alpha and the Omega,” says the Lord God, “who is, and who was, and who is to come, the Almighty.” (Revelation 1:8)

“I am the First and the Last.” (Revelation 1:17 — Jesus speaking)

“He said to me: “It is done. I am the Alpha and the Omega, the Beginning and the End. To him who is thirsty I will give to drink without cost from the spring of the water of life. He who overcomes will inherit all this, and I will be his God and he will be my son.” (Revelation 21:6-7)

“Behold, I am coming soon! My reward is with me, and I will give to everyone according to what he has done. I am the Alpha and the Omega, the First and the Last, the Beginning and the End… I, Jesus, have sent my angel to give you this testimony for the churches. I am the Root and the Offspring of David, and the bright Morning Star.” (Revelation 22:12-16)

Those around Jesus understood Him to be describing Himself as God, so much so that the Jews tried to kill Him for that very thing!

The apostle Thomas called Jesus “my Lord and my God” after Jesus’ resurrection.

I’ll open the floor for other arguments and comments on these.

The identity of Jesus

“Revelation no where declares that there are three persons of the same substance in the one only God; and it is universally acknowledged to be above reason” (Barton W. Stone, Address to the Christian Churches, 2nd Edition [1821])

From the early years of the church, the question of Jesus’ identity has been a difficult one for Christians. Heresies arose which contended that Jesus was not truly human or that “Christ” came upon Jesus at his baptism and left him before the cross. Others, seeing that some saw Jesus as being one with the Father, called their opponents “Father-killers,” saying that they would portray the Father as being nailed to the cross.

In modern times, men have more problems with the divinity of Jesus. Within the church, many have rejected the doctrine of the Trinity, refusing to see Jesus as God incarnate. The arguments presented tend to be:

  • The Bible teaches that there is only one God; if Jesus is God, then there is more than one God.
  • Jesus, while on earth, spoke of the Father as being superior. He presented himself as one who did what the Father told him to do.
  • Jesus was tempted, while James tells us that God cannot be tempted.
  • Jesus prayed to the Father while on earth. He spoke of the Father knowing things that he did not. He continually spoke of God in the third person.
  • The Bible speaks of Jesus as being created or begotten, not as an eternal being.

I’ll try to present the other side in my next post. For now, I’d like to know if there are other arguments that I’ve missed. These are the main ones that I have heard. (If you didn’t read the previous post, please do so before commenting!)

Red Herring or Heartfelt Inquiry

Painting by Simon Dewey

I don’t think it was noontime. There, I’ve said it. I’ve offered up my red herring, my distracting observation that will keep you from reading on to my main point. In John chapter 4, I think that John was using Roman time when he says “the sixth hour.” It was probably 6 p.m.

But that’s not actually what I wanted to write about. As I’ve heard this story retold, many feel that the woman became flustered when Jesus spoke about her 5-and-a-half husbands and that she proceeded to ask a totally irrelevant question, bringing up a popular debate without any real significance. “The woman said to him, “Sir, I perceive that you are a prophet. Our fathers worshiped on this mountain, but you say that in Jerusalem is the place where people ought to worship.”” (John 4:19-20 ESV)

I think that this question is not just trivia for this woman. It’s not just a smoke screen. I think she’s finally met a real prophet, and she finally gets to ask the question that’s been bothering her for a long time: Do we proskuneo to this mountain or to Jerusalem? My extremely limited Greek studies tell me that proskuneo refers to a physical worship, usually meaning a bowing down. [Interestingly enough, the writers of the New Testament never use it to describe what Christians did in the first century; that may be because of Jesus’ comments in this passage] She’s asking a question about physical worship.

I think this woman wants to know where to pray to. Remember that the Old Testament talks about praying toward the temple in order to have one’s prayers heard (1 Kings 8:29-30, 35; 2 Chronicles 6:38). Remember that Daniel prayed toward Jerusalem while in Babylonia (Daniel 6:10). I think this woman wanted to pray to God so that her prayers would be heard, but she didn’t know which direction to pray. Jesus tells her that God is spirit (not a physical God that lives in a temple) and is worshiped in spirit and in truth, not by bowing down in a certain way or in a certain direction.

I think the question that this woman asked was the question: how do I worship God?